Should Ryuunosuke count as a Karma Houdini? I know he was killed, but it was by somebody who didn't even know or care what he had done. Plus, being killed made him happier than he had ever been, when he should have been bawling and begging for his life.Joe Devaney (talk) 11:36, November 11, 2018 (UTC)
- I say no to him counting, he is no longer a threat to the living nor did he escape "justice" so to speak through natural causes he was just surprised and excited to finally know what death felt like firsthand. Jester of chaos (talk) 11:48, November 11, 2018 (UTC)
- Fair enough. It was better when we had Died with Honour and Died in Disgrace to make that distinction.Joe Devaney (talk) 14:45, November 11, 2018 (UTC)