So I actually just watched Get Out and gotta say I quite enjoyed. It was a big accomplishment compared to horror movies of today, even the really good ones (It Follows, The Babadook). I will say I was a lil concerned about Rose's status due to her being raised in a racist family, but like you guys said there's really no evidence that she was coerced by her family (i certainly never believed she was hypnotized like most people did I mean that would suggest the entire family was hypnotized which is ridiculous). Plus I got the impression that the other family members at least did what they did to help their relatives, even if their methods were twisted. She shows no concern over her family and seems to show more sadistic delight in the act ("you were my favorite"). Plus, I feel unlike the other members she hurt the victims on a more personal level because they loved and trusted her. Hell she's the only member that actually appears normal. Or maybe my concern was a bit biased cause I think she's rather hot lol. But in all seriousnes, great film and Rose is certainly worthy of the PE title.
Not much. To be honest while I do agree that some forms of racism aren't as apparent as they were a decade ago, I honestly didn't really like the whole idea that most of the white characters in the film were either jerks, or secretly evil and running a cult. On the one hand, it makes a valid point in how some races try to take on roles that are stereotypically attributed to, the fact that nearly all of the white characters are immoral really leaves no room for a middle ground.
I see what ya mean. But as staire I feel like it was just trying to exaggerate the aspect by making all white people jerks. Ok maybe one nice white person could have been added, but I get the director's reasoning.
the main reason for removing it was not so much the category as I suspected it was right but rather Overseer's manner of adding it:
"Don't need to. Her character bio makes it plenty obvious why. And again, "TV Tropes is Always Right Act of 2015", when the Villains Wiki refused to consider that TV Tropes might just be wrong now and again."
which was just an excuse to try and stir controversy over a subject I think has been done to death now.
I'd be wary of it off the bat as it is described as "Demonic Overlord" - which sets of many red flags to me, demons are harder to qualify, even moreso when they are depicted as "big evil overlord" types.
oh, I plan on writing about a legendary figure from a Japanese folklore and even reading it on the Yokai website makes me think the guy is VERY strong contender, however I may not be the best judge so I wonder if this counts:
Iemon - a Samurai and the main villain of the "Oiwa" legend.
he was married to Oiwa but was a thief and waster, the marriage was inhappy and Oiwa decided to return to her family home to escape it, Iemon followed but was stopped by her father, who demanded Iemon divorce his daughter due to his misdeeds, instead Iemon murdered him and lied to Oiwa that a stranger killed her father, begging her to reconcile and promising to avenger her father's murder (she did so).
later Oiwa became pregnant with Iemon's son but they had little money and Oiwa grew sick after giving birth, Iemon grew resentful of his wife and conspired with a rich doctor to poison Oiwa so the samurai could marry Oume (the doctor's daughter): instead of killing her the poison disfigured her and Iemon grew to hate his wife even more, he decided to divorce her but needed a reason to do so under law so hired a friend to rape her so he could claim infidelity : the attempt failed when his friend saw her disfigurement and refused to do so, Oiwa then learned of her disfigurement and killed herself in grief, cursing Iemon as she died.
her body was discovered by Iemon's servant but instead of being sad by her death Iemon was overjoyed, the servant was obviously suspicious of this so Iemon murdered his servant : nailing both the servant and Oiwa's bodies to a door which he tossed in a river and made a lie that the servant and Oiwa had been sleeping together.
Iemon proceeded to marry Oume but soon became the "victim" of Oiwa's vengeful ghost, who drove him to kill his new wife and her father before driving him into the wilderness where he went insane.. (much like Alan Yates being eaten by cannibals I really don't feel sorry of Iemon at all).
even by Japanese folklore standards I'd say he counts.. I have to work on the article but figured this brief info may be enough for a reserved judgement.
http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Iemon <-- the article as stands (he also sold her belongings while she was ill, even the clothing of his own son - all so he could marry the other woman (what's worse is he is based on a real-life figure, albeit turned into a legend, meaning some of these events actually happened and thus he is based on actual human cruelty and not just "fairy tale monster" traits.)
neither do I, look at Hitler, Stalin and most of the leaders of groups like ISIS etc.. if they were fictionalized they'd usually be Pure Evil.. I just want to check if Iemon passes the heinousness standards because YMMV and all that.. I'd argue Iemon goes beyond the usual "evil / abusive consort" found in Japanese ghost stories, normally the consorts are in love with a woman but are spurned so kill the woman or rape her then her ghost returns to attack.. Iemon seems to take that mentality "up to eleven" however by how many random innocents he kills, as well as how prolonged the whole affair of killing his consort is (not to mention the hired rape thing).
plus he's fully human, which I think makes him even worse than the "Terrible Three Yokai" who are considered the "most evil" figures in traditional stories (of course according to Yokai website, I'm fairly certain such rankings are VERY variable depending on region).
the only thing that's odd is he lacks any real motive beyond being an evil asshat to everyone that doesn't somehow aid his plans (which are just about getting what he wants) but that's Neutral Evil for you.. I'll admit it limits his personality though, since such a character is literally just there to be evil and cruel.
we qualified DeSoulis though, didn't we? if so I'll add Iemon as he is quite similar to DeSoulis in the sense they both have zero good qualities at all and spend the majority of the legend killing off every other character for petty reasons.
to try and combat vandalism I have decided on a bold move, hopefully it will help us all.. admins should be aware and please tell me if the filter is not working or goes haywire so I can disable / alter it.
update: I am seriously considering keeping this change, as it has already worked well in detering the usual suspects (a look at the abuse log and I see they already tried 20 times to make new pages and got blocked from doing it) - it won't stop them redirecting pages but that's easily dealt with.
maybe this can be a new rule? it could also really help in getting users to focus on working on a page they make rather than making many short or one-line articles.
I had a discussion with Jester of Chaos and he agreed with me that Mr. Krabs from Mr. Krabs' Unquenchable Bloodlust page should be restored. Honestly, what does it matter that he is not known on Know Your Meme, I see nothing wrong with that? Whether he is or not known on Know Your Meme, I don't think it's a valid reason not to give him a page as he is more than qualified as a villain. It's a stupid rule anyway.
Also, Frollo is a Serial Killer. He oversaw the deaths of many gypsies. Anyone who kills 3 or more people should be regarded as a Serial Killer regardless.
That's the rule. The villain needs to be well-known on KYM. Not so much as being a confirmed meme, but they should at least have a page. Given that YouTube Poop itself is essentially a meme, and Bloodlust is a part of that genre, by all means, go ahead.
So Mr. Krabs page is greenlighted? Thanks. I do think Frollo counts as a Serial Killer. It's pretty clear that his body count is much higher than Quasimodo's mother and anyone who has a body count of 3 or more automatically counts as a Serial Killer.
Hello Austin, I was just curious to ask if you would be willing to hear my suggestion on a new addition to the character infobox to have some new sections, those sections being "family", "friends", and "enemies". The reason of this being is because we could add more information to characters about their relations with other characters, that way should people look through this wiki for a character in particular, they will see some more information on that character about their relations with other characters. I got this idea from the heroes wiki, which is practically a wiki that makes pages for characters of the complete opposite on this wiki, they also have those sections I speak of in their infobox, and I thought it would be a good addition for this wiki to have as well for when we add information about characters relations so they can see it in the infobox, as the infobox is going to be the first thing the viewer will look at when they visit the page.
It is okay if you disagree, but this is something I personally would like to see as I would love to include some additional info about a character's relationship with other characters. Let me know what you think.